As a math person, the moment I read the title, “The Case
Against the Zero,” I became rather excited to read what this was all about.
Reeves opens this article with the question: “If you are using a grading scale
in which the numbers 4, 3, 2, 1, and 0 correspond to grades of A, B, C, D, and
F, then what number is awarded to a student who fails to turn in an
assignment?” He then remarks that most people answer this question with “0,”
and that in the scenario we have described, that is a “rational system, as the
increment between each letter grade is proportionate to the increment between
each numerical grade—one point.” Now, however, he transitions over to the 100-point
grading scale used today, where “the interval between numerical and letter
grades is typically 10 points,” and when the score of a zero is applied, the
discrepancy between a D and an F is no longer one point (as in the case of the
4-point scale), but now it is sixty. From here, Reeves builds his case against
the zero, stating that the effect of a zero on one’s grade is unnecessarily
severe, and mathematically unsound because of the disproportionate effect. He
adds that receiving just a few zeros could cause a student to fail a class, and
could lead to a life of academic failure. To prevent this, he argues that
instead of giving a student a zero if they do not complete an assignment,
educators should simply require students to complete the assignment. He
concludes by suggesting that we change to a 4-point system, and if a need for
greater specificity arises, we can include however many decimal places we
desire within that scale.
While I appreciate (and agree with) the desire not to
devastate a student’s grade with a zero, I think there are many alternatives to
what the author is proposing, and I think that there are some flawed arguments
in this article. The idea that we should require students to complete an
assignment if they did not turn it in when it was due is not novel. Often times
teachers take off 10% for each day an assignment is late, and understand if
extenuating circumstances arise, giving students chances to bring up their
grade. Furthermore, if Reeves understands the need to differentiate, then he
should realize that grades are not dispersed evenly for a reason, and that his
suggestion falls into the same trap he is trying to prevent. Why should a C be
equal to 2 points on a 4-point scale? Is knowing 50% of the material adequate?
Is knowing 25% passing? Would we want our doctors getting 50%’s in their
classes? The reason we skew the scale toward the high end—in my opinion—is
because we have high expectations for students and because knowing 50% doesn’t
cut it. If 75% was an A, how would we know who our top students are? What would
be the incentive to score in the 90’s? And on the 4-point scale Reeves
proposes, doesn’t he realize that a 2.00 and below would become the new F and
we’d be back where we started?
Chapter 8 of Integrating Differentiated Instruction &
Understanding by Design, on the other hand, makes an excellent case against the
zero in a matter of two paragraphs. Here, the authors argue that teachers
should not assign zeros to missing work because, while we want to promote
positive work habits in our students, we also want to accurately represent
their level of understanding in our grades. What if one student has clearly
mastered the material and never turned in any work, and another student has a
modest understanding of the material and has turned in all of their work? Who
get’s the better grade? One solution that both Chapter 8 and the Reeves article
offer is to assign an “Incomplete” for missing work and incentivize students to
complete the assignment—after all, the point is for them to learn, right?
Another alternative to the zero that Chapter 8 offers is to report grades in
three separate components: achievement, progress, and work habits. This way,
students’ achievement in these areas could be more accurately reflected in their
grades, whereas with our current system, the same grade can mean many different
things because of how many components are included in that single number.
Personally, I think that would be a great system, and would address many of the
problems Chapter 8 brings up in terms of student motivation and grade validity.

Danielle,
ReplyDeleteGreat blog post. You did a great job summarizing the main points of both readings. I definitely agree that Chapter 8 made a great argument against the zero. I think that they are right to say that including zeroes in an average distorts the records of student learning because it doesn't prove if a student learned the material well or not. I think the alternative of giving an incomplete is a better option, as well as requiring students to complete the work, as Reeves suggests as well.
The separate factors that Chapter 8 argues should be reported (grades for achievement of goals, progress towards goals, and work habits) are a great alternative to the grading system we have now, as you point out. It would help students see where they are, where they have to improve, and what work habits they should change to improve their achievement. I agree with a quote from this chapter that says "what we report signals what we value" and if we value all these factors then they should all be reported separately so attention can be given to all 3 instead of just one single grade. Since not all schools have implemented this alternative, I think that the suggestion given in this chapter of attaching comments reflecting progress and work habits to a grade can be useful for parents and students.
Hi Danielle and Vanessa!
DeleteI definitely agree with several of the points made, especially about the different alternatives one can do to assess a student's progress. Majority of the lesson plans that I have made throughout my coursework at UIC revolve around all of these types of assessments. However, sometimes I feel like I run into this hole, because I know that these types of assessments may not be enough to show my students' growth. Ultimately, administrators would rather see high test scores than well-developed work in a portfolio. As teachers, we need to learn how to work around these things, and hopefullly allow our students to value learning rather than just a grade.
Danielle,
ReplyDeleteAs we are both math majors, I’m sure you know by now that I will more than likely completely agree with you, especially on topics such as the ones regarding zeros on this week's readings. It is absurd to think that even students who understand content, continue to make progress, and show initiative, can completely fail a class due to a few missing assignments. As the article explains, the discrepancy that arises when we switch to a 100 point scale is what makes the grading system a dangerous thing to tackle. Even after these issues are addressed and the effects are explained in plain English or even in numerical / mathematical terms, it incredible to think about how often this continues to happen, and how many teachers adopt this way of thinking. Perhaps it is up to our generation of teachers to make the shift to a more proper and effective grading system as proposed by chapter 8.
Hi Danielle, I enjoyed reading your post. I agree with the whole idea of not giving zeroes. Students should be encouraged to complete their assignments. I had a teacher who use to offer at least 50% if you turned papers in way past the deadline. What she told us was that a 50% was better than a zero-and would at least contribute some points to our grade. If part of our job as teachers is to assess, it is beneficial to have a paper-late or not-in front of you to assess. If a student does not hand in anything-it is difficult to see where that student is at.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I'm not sure how I would feel about reporting grades in the alternative to the zero way that Chapter 8 offers-with the three separate components of achievement, progress, and work habits. Not so much because I do not think it would be useful, but more so because it would be different than what I am use to.
I agree that giving zeros is inefficient. It is unfair for teachers to give a zero to students that may have completed their homework but left it at home or had work or had to take care of siblings. I believe zeros are a complete fail sign. As soon as a student sees a zero they may stop trying or already think they are failing. All students should be encouraged to show their potential and that have a circle defat them.
ReplyDeleteI would like to add something to your second paragraph. I would like to pose the question what makes a good student? Or in that case what makes a good doctor? What makes a good politician? What makes a good teacher? And do grades truly reflect a good student/doctor/politician/etc?
ReplyDeleteWhen you are trying to differentiate a classroom of different learners how do you "grade" the good students and Classify the bad ones? And what who should classify who? I think a better doctor can be created if he/she is motivated to be a lifelong learner in their specific career of interest. In this world, there are "doctors" who became healers and knew how to heal specific symptoms by looking at nature. They didn't need a system in which grades classified them worthy of becoming a good village healer. Students are often classified as dumb if they cannot comply with the system. Einstein, Edision, Gates (and many more) are all examples of people who were classified as "bad" students. So do grades really help in sorting good students from bad?
Grades fall into a system were we subordinate students, classify and control is the name of the game.
Hey Danielle,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate the case that UbD makes far more than the case Reeves makes. While I understand his point, I think you raise a great one. We want our students to succeed, and part of that success is about high academic achievement. If our students do understand the the ideas, but never do the work, what do we do? I think giving an incomplete is a perfect response. I have many professors who swear by giving incompletes as opposed to giving a zero. It's a different kind of way to encourage students to make up missing or late work. By giving an incomplete grade, it shows students that there is the option to complete the work. Finding a grading scale that we are happy with won't be an easy process, but understanding how we want to deal with students who fail to do work is a start.
Hey Danielle,
ReplyDeleteGreat post and an excellent overview of the two chapters. I definitely agree with you that the 4 point system proposed is flawed and that the chapter 8 three category system seems like an excellent way to divide our grade books. However, these do not have to be the only ways we think of grading our students. After all, we are the ones who have control over our classroom grading and therefore should have the creativity to think of new ways that might work even better. For example, when grading students' work using the achievements, work habits, and progress model, would you give a student any credit for turning in an assignment on time with no answers correct and no work shown? My way of thinking is to give them the time points because that is a separate category, but that does not seem fair.
Instead, I would explain in my syllabus a new style for grading assignments where 10% may be stricken for each day late till a max of 70% can be achieved for the grade and enter a note in my grade book for lower scores whether it was due to it being late or a lack of understanding.
Danielle-
ReplyDeleteWell thought out post- thank you. I love the idea of grading broken down into three components. It doesn't make sense to have students all the work a student has done in one class be reduced to a simple letter grade corresponding only to performance. There are many other factors attributed to learning that are important to consider when assessing an individual's learning. Also, in regards to a zero grade on missing work- I'm observing at Benito Juarez and they use a benchmarking grading system. My mentor teacher does not hand out tests, every grade is correlated to a specific skill the student is meant to build or achieve. Grades are handed in as the end of each quarter. So, even though she has due dates for each benchmark, because of the chronic truancy school-wide, students are able to turn in their work until the day before grades are due. I think this is a great way to address the chronic truancy, though I wonder if it hinders the rigor of some of their courses.
I think this is a great pos, and you bring up many great points. I do agree that students should not be given zeros just because they miss an assignment and should definitely complete the assigment. Unfortunately this is not always the case. Greta brings up a great idea her teacher had about giving 50% to students who turn in homework way past the deadline. I see this working when students see the importance of grades and how much a zero can effect their grade.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I can't help but think of grade curves in college and how you feel about them. You mentioned that our student doctors should not be passing if they only know 50% of the material, but in many cases that is exactly the case in college. I don't agree with it, but then again I have definitely been on the side the curve helps.
I understand that giving an incomplete for the grade gives time to the student to complete the work, but what happens when the quarter ends and grades are due? Currently, in the school I observe at, the quarter is coming to a close and final exams are being taken. During this time, every teacher is pushing their students to turn in their late assignments, which are marked incomplete. If they are not turned in on time, these assignments will turn into zeroes. Many students have missing work and once those assignments are given a zero, grades will dip. Should we just leave them incomplete? But then what's to prevent the students to just turn in one assignment for the A? Then if we mark the missing assignments with a zero, grades will dip, hurting the students with perfect marks but missing assignments. I believe this emphasizes the need for students to turn in the work, stating how even a failing grade of 50% is better than a zero
ReplyDeleteI am in agreement with you and everyone else commenting about why assigning zeros to missing assignments are ineffective, however my question would be what happens at the end of the semester when over half of the student's grades are "m"s? Do those just turn to zeros when the semester ends? What if the only ten grades in the grade books are As and the rest are "m"s? Does the student receive an A?
ReplyDeleteYou brought up some very important and REAL points in your blog! I never really understood what big of an issue and how prevalent it is in some Chicago schools until I started my obsessions this semester. Allowing students to pass with a percentage that really a failing percentage is confusing and an issue that needs to be resolved. My field experience this semester has been at Benito Juarez where all the students are graded on a benchmark system. The history department grades is students on 10 benchmark per year, if students pass 7 benchmarks their grade is an A, which is essentially a 70%.
ReplyDeleteDanielle
ReplyDeleteNice post. Being that I am NOT a math person, (using that as my excuse) you brought up some great points that I had never thought of regarding Reeves' article in that a 2 = a C which is essentially a 50% of the available points and if we are holding students to high standards, what would be the incentive to strive for a 90%?? Thank you for pointing that out. What would then, all you math folks out there, be a truly appropriate grading scale that accurately reflects a grading scale? Or does it make more sense to get rid of A,B,C,D,F altogether and come up with something different?
Hi. Yes, the mathematical logic against zero and point/grade devastation is undeniable and I am fully on board in being against it. I would probably use some sort of combination of say a low of 50 (out of 100) and Incompletes to address the issue. I've already addressed this in another response, but I DO like the three tiered suggestion of the authors... but what if your principal or school decides or requires that you hand in a single letter grade for each student in the class? what will you base the grade on? (achievement? - the standard summative assessment method? Progress? (the Julie Peters suggestion?) or "work habits?" (this to me is a somewhat nebulous category, and work habits may be difficult to assess - does that mean simply turning in all of your work?? (aren't work habits a sub-section of "progress"? and if you don't turn in all of your work, that will affect achievement grade) So I would actually lean more towards a TWO pronged (achievement/progress) metric, with the $64K question being how to weight the two.
ReplyDeleteYour other comment about grading is also interesting... as to your question about "how do you know who your best students are?" - well actually. as a teacher you will find that out in very short order, IMO - the cream quickly rises to the top (depending on your definition of "best student" - for e.g. if you deem diligence to be a top trait.. that will show itself very quickly. and within a period of time you will ascertain levels of aptitude combined with diligence that will reveal who is coasting, who's working hard, etc and I think this is where the author's suggestion of the three tiered grade is tailored toward. The larger question is WHY do we have grade point averages?? I' not sure I need grades to "differentiate" in that sense between kids.. that is where the standardized tests come in. The tests,which are specifically designed to produce a bell curve distribution will "tell you" very clearly who your "best students are" - or theoretically - who are your students that are best prepared for college.. The question then returns to - what is the real function of grades in your classroom? are they supposed to mean something? (and if so.. what?) or are they supposed to serve as a counterbalance/counterweight to those who struggle on standardized tests?
btw - I have to give a thumbs up to Abel for some subversive and interesting points he makes in his post. The questions of "what makes a good ______ are paramount.
I'm a little confused as to tilting the scale upward comment and 2 out of 4 as - 50% of point. No - the grade progression here is not linear.. it is logarithmic .. I think everyone understands this distinction, so where does 2 out of 4 = 50% of points come from?
Hi Danielle,
ReplyDeleteOverall, good post and just like most of the bloggers here, I agree with doing away with the system of simply assigning zeros for incompleted/missing work and advocate for the option towards giving students a chance to make it up (for less points but to at least to understand the material) and to assigning an incomplete/missing into the electronic gradebook. I have seen this system being utilzed both in my former high school as well as the high school where I am currently observing at. However, one quesiton which came to my mind is something which Maggie R also stated in her blog responce. The quesiton is when grades are officially pulled, what happens to the Incompletes or to the missing marks? Does it become a defacto zero, is counted as a different percentage or what exactly?
Danielle,
ReplyDeleteIt is an interesting concept to break grades down into categories, thus having more flexibility as a teacher to judge a student's progress. However, I think the author makes a huge error in thinking categories like student motivation and progress would be viable grade categories. How do you judge student motivation? Is there a standard measure by which all students are fairly judged? Or is it on a per individual basis? If the latter, how would you, as a teacher, be able to fairly judge everyone?
Student progress sounds simple on the surface, but dig through the top layer, and you find huge problems. Progress as compared to other students, or where the individual started? In either case, how is that a fair judgement of progress?
Can you imagine the parental response if their child is graded on their motivation as compared to others? What evidence would you use to back up your assessment?
All I see are minefields in this respect. Moving away from a traditional grading system sounds great on principle, but, as we say in history, "There, be dragons..."
Thanks for your post. You brought up some good points about the flaws in Reeves's 4-point scale. I too like the idea of splitting up what we grade - here, achievement, work habits, and progress. It seems to me that this is a more equitable way of grading. A missed assignment doesn't ruin you. In addition, students with different strengths are graded in a way that gives credence to their talents. In fact, can we come up with more ways to split up grading components?
ReplyDeleteRespect for classmates' opinions? Preparedness for the day? Making other students laugh in a (non-disruptive) move to make the classroom more pleasant? Willingness to learn? I realize I am getting all hippie and moving away from quantitative measurement....but are there ways to reward students for their myriad strengths in our grading??
This resonates with how MAS calculates grades. Instead of giving students 0's for assignments that they didn't get correctly, they give them at least 40% so that they are able to achieve some points for each assignment. This also corresponds to late work. Students will get 0's only when the work hasn't been turned in, but once they have it in, instead of getting no credit, they will earn that minimum of 40%. This seems to encourage students to do the work and stay engaged in the material because they have the opportunity to be successful. But it also creates of a problem: with this cushion, students aren't accurately earning all the points and therefore can do the bare minimum and still pass the assignment.
ReplyDeleteNice post!
Saarah Mohammed
Great post! I believe the point valuing system is definitely a conversation that needs to be had. In my own experiences (within a high school framework) I believe I experienced the 10% off grading system for late submission ...or at least some kind of deduction of points. It was a such thing as 5 days late you could receive nothing higher than and F (50% instead of 0%).
ReplyDeleteI do believe that students do need to be taught accountability with making deadlines but I do not believe in making it impossible for students to pass at the expense of that lesson. Of course consecutive offenses are something that need to be addressed, but constant zeros will be even more detrimental to not only their grades but also confidence and effort.
Zeros are negative reinforcements, one way to go about teaching students the importance of completing homework .. but positive reinforcements are better. Showing students how the sooner you complete your homework the better your grade often is. Or allowing students who turn it in on time to resubmit for revisions.
I feel like there are other options more than the chapter suggests, but can at least agree with the author that zeros should be the last result.
Hey Danielle,
ReplyDeleteI agree that his argument was flawed when you said the new 2 will become an F anyway, students are so conditioned to chase full credit that if the change occurred now then that is the shift that would be made. I agree that 10 percent drops every day an assignment is late would solve most of the problem, but then you have students who are turning work in two days late and still getting Bs. Perhaps I would say that if it is late the best you could get on it is an 80 percent and then every day after that make it a ten percent drop.
Hi Danielle,
ReplyDeleteWhile reading your post, I could just see the mathematical gears working in your head. There are so many good points you bring up that I'm not sure where to begin, so I guess I'll just begin with my experience with the dilemma of the zero.
I immediately recalled howI created my EdTPA rubric for my assessment. It was only after the fact that I realized I used numbers 4,3,2, and 1. I didn't use zero, and when I looked more closely, I realized that the diction I used to describe my "1" could also be applied to "0." I thought I designed my rubric inefficently because of this, but now reading the discrepancies between ratios and points between a D and an F, I just feel as though giving my students a "0" on my rubric will make them feel like one. As long as they handed in something on the paper, I would be inclined to give them a 1. If they didn't turn in the assignment, my educational philosophy views this as an 'incomplete,' where I would also give my students a chance to make up this work by the end of the current unit.
Maybe the answer would be, "If you don't turn everything in, you can't pass my class." Although this seems harsh, I think it would be a motivator in order to hand everything in. Students will still turn in an unfinished product, but I think my "1" would be better than a "0." A zero to me feels like counting someone out. And especially supported by the evidence with the discrepancies between the 4-0 scale and the 0-100 scale, I find the smaller scale more doable.
Thanks!
Andrea