Saturday, November 8, 2014

Classroom Management


Hi guys, my post is not much of a summary because you guys have all read so you guys clearly do not need me to bore you by repeating everything you’ve already heard-and will hear again next week. Instead, I offer two quotes and an anecdote related to the subject. If that sounds really very boring, go ahead and respond to any one of the four questions below related to the readings and skip the rest: 


1.       “Collete teaches high school English in Philadelphia and described what she believes about connecting with her students: ‘I really believe you have to make that social and emotional connection with kids in order to get inside their heads. You have to get to their heart before you get to their head. The fact that you care makes them see you differently’” (Brown 277).

Do you agree with Collete, or does her approach sound too idealistic? Should teachers have to build relationships with their students? Perhaps you believe class room management does not necessitate a social or emotional connection at all.

2.      Brown’s idea of effective class management is the following, “Effectively managing students generally involves the ability to develop a classroom social environment in which students agree to cooperate with teachers and fellow students in pursuit of academic growth” (268).

What is effective class management to you? In your opinion, what should a classroom with effective classroom management look like?


3.      In Weiner’s “Managing Your Class” article, she explains how she saw Sonya drop a penknife from her purse; however, she does not confiscate it or call security. Would you have done what Weiner did, or would you have informed somebody? Why or why not? Also, what would you have done about the male with the gun? (87-88). Do you think zero policy schools help or hurt student learning?



4.      What are your views on discipline and punishment? Moreover, do you feel suspensions are ineffective?



I found the Weiner's “Managing Your Classroom” article very interesting. The text was essentially a narrative on the author’s experience teaching in inner city high schools. Near the beginning, it states, “Using the concept of ‘classroom management’ helps you to shift your focus from incidents of misbehavior to an examination of everything that occurs in the classroom in order to support rather than undercut the behavior you want to elicit” (Weiner 81). For example, she talks about handing out materials after giving instructions instead of doing the reverse and expecting kids not to play with the materials. I agree with her that anticipating misbehavior and being proactive instead of reactive definitely helps maintain good class management; however, I still think we should expect some sort of respect for the rules from students without us having to ponder for hours over the effectiveness of every little action and/or choice we make in our classroom. We cannot absolve students of personal accountability. Some students do know right from wrong and will act out regardless of how well you set up your order of doing things. There is no one formula on how to manage a classroom because every classroom and every student is different. This is why we need to consider not one, but all of the classroom strategies that Brown lists in the “Urban Teachers Professed Classroom Management Strategies” article.


As Brown notes, classroom management is not only about establishing assertiveness and authority, establishing congruent communication processes, and/or demanding effort-it is also about a caring attitude. When we think of a teacher with good class management skills-too often we think about that strict teacher that has no sense of humor and never smiles (at least not before December). However, you do not have to be that teacher in order to have good class management skills-although if that’s what floats your boat then go for it, but just know that you can also be that teacher with a caring attitude and good class management skills. 

This caring attitude can be achieved through building relationships with the students. For example, I use to work as a fitness coach at an inner city Chicago Public School. I worked with middle school children who were just about my size. When I first began working with them they did not respect me or take me seriously. They knew I was new and they felt I had to earn my authority. In the article Brown explains how “[t]he first and primary characteristic described by most of these 13 teachers is the importance and value of providing individualized attention by developing a personal relationship with each student. Teachers take time out of each day to communicate individually with many students on nonacademic matters” (275). In other words, the kids at the school were not going to respect me unless I built individual relationships with them. After a few stressful days, I knew I somehow needed to build rapport with the students. I began trying to get to know my most “disruptive” student and it turned out he and I shared a common interest: a love for basketball (he was in the school basketball team). After he found out I liked and could "talk basketball," he and his friends began inviting me to their games. Soon I found myself attending their basketball games (off the clock of course so I was not compensated for this-but it paid off during the school day when they began actually listening to me-plus who doesn’t love watching a basketball game). Some of my other students would also be at the games watching and, after a while, they began saving me a seat. The students really appreciated this and I noticed a huge change in the way they saw me. Although it took a lot of time and effort on my part, I had finally earned their respect. 

I do not think good classroom management is something easy to achieve-it is something that takes time and experience. Furthermore, no one strategy is universal-what works with one class may not work with another-and this is where our artistry as teachers comes into play . As Brown writes, "managing student behavior while maintaining an appropriate learning environment is as much art as it is science." It is also important to note that some student misbehavior is the product of issues in the home environment; therefore, it is important not to give up on any child.


(On a quick side note, I had some issues with the Brown article overgeneralizing about students of different cultures at times-but I did enjoy reading the article).


-Best Regards,
Greta

22 comments:

  1. Greta, I enjoyed reading your post. Yes, I do feel that teachers should try to build relationships with their students. By this, I mean finding a way to relate to students on a personal level. Ultimately, everyone wants to be listened to and understood. This does not mean trying to be "teacher of the year "and "everyone's friend," but creating an environment where everyone feels respected. The challenge comes in when someone is resistant to wanting to learn or more intent on challenging a teacher's authority. I really feel there's not a textbook answer on how to solve or overcome these issues. We will learn by experience. I did, however, appreciate the articles attempts to offer strategies in order to problem solve. The area I found most helpful was in regards to cultural sensitivity. In many ways, especially after reading the Brown article, I thought, "I wish I would've known this before my observation. The portion in particular was: "African Americans have a social interaction style referred to as "call response" in which students may frequently speak while the teacher is speaking as a response to their feelings about a teacher's comments" (271). The class I observed did this quite regularly. Just like the article stated, I was viewing this particular behavior exhibited by students as dis-respectful. Having this added knowledge that their may be cultural aspects at play, adds more information to the puzzle. I'm not saying that it gives a pass in regards to side-talking, or possible class disruption, but the more cultural information I have, or any information for that matter, when tackling a certain element that I may find problematic, can only help in finding solutions. If nothing else, as a teacher, I would take it less personally that the side-talking is against me personally.

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  2. there may be cultural aspects. (sp) and last sentence: I wouldn't assume the side-talking was against me personally.

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  3. Hey Greta! Towards the first question you pose… I think its really important to establish a connection with your students when it comes to gaining their respect. As Collete mentions, when we as teachers show we care, they see us differently. I understand that it can get really hectic and busy for teachers to make individual connections with all students, but I think that if we make that extra effort to show that we believe in them and are interested in their lives, they will in turn not only like us, but trust us which makes classroom management easier. For me, as a student when teachers showed me they cared, I personally wanted to work harder to not disappoint them because they believed in me so much.

    I think some ways we can build that connection are simply getting to know the students and their interests. Not only that, but letting them know who you are and your own interests. Also, more simple things such as greeting them at the door each by their names. Like the video posted by another blogger below, this establishes a welcoming and warm demeanor and yet still establishes that sense of authority.

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  4. Greta,
    Nice blog post and great follow up questions. I wanted to focus on the question you proposed on classroom management. I feel that classroom management is the establishment of a classroom that works!!! To emphasize, classroom management begins with the first day of school. It involves communicating the expectations of the classroom and setting the foundation for the flow of the class. As a teacher you need to communicate how much you value education and that you wish to establish a good relationship with each and every student to ensure that they get a good education. Classroom management entails showing your students that the end goal here is to have everyone learn and engage in the classroom, and to that end, students must behave in a manner that allows for all students to reach these goals. Hence, a classroom that works.

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  5. I believe creating a relationship with students is a very effective way to make classroom management more simple. The reality is that there will be students whom which are disruptive or simply do not pay attention or participate, but if we can connect with them on a level that makes them feel more comfortable in the classroom there will be a change in their behavior. The disruptive student may not be disruptive because he or she may share a common interest with you and will show a bit more respect for you as their teacher just simply for that reason. The student that does not pay attention just might start paying attention more because you did not yell or discipline them but paid attention to them, and that student who does not participate will begin to because they know you care about what they have to say that you care about them. With all that is said and done showing that you care i feel will open up doors of trust and communication in which all relationships need in order to thrive.

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  6. Hey Greta,

    Classroom management is something that I have struggled with over the course of my teaching career. This stems mostly from my being a Professor at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, CO. Discipline worked a lot differently there than it does in a high school classroom (for obvious reasons), but it was there, in a collegiate, military environment that I learned the basics of how to manage a classroom.

    This ruined me when it comes to managing a high school classroom, in that I did not know how good I had it at the Academy, and how different classroom management worked at the high school level. In the military, when someone gives you attitude, you get in their face. At the Academy, if a student didn't follow directions, you called his/her squadron commander and told them what the student was up to, and they dealt with it. It was not uncommon to demand things of students, even to the point of giving them an order to their face in front of the whole class.

    Can't do any of that in high school! I had to learn some of that the hard way, unfortunately. Classroom management is a tricky thing, and one that I think that needs to be dealt with on a student by student basis. Chronic problem students need to be dealt with differently than those that have a screw up once in a while, or never.

    As far as the questions of suspensions go, I have read that they are not really effective at changing undesirable behavior. I think alternative punishments should be offered to the student as part of an in-school suspension program, one in which the student would have some choice in what their punishment should be. Perhaps, in being given some control over their destiny, they would think twice about any future negative behavior.

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  7. Sup Greta,

    For me I tend to agree with Collete but I also believe it is idealistic to believe that you will reach or connect with every student. I believe that sometimes we try to paint this approach in a negative light because well it can go very wrong. I also believe that sometimes we shy away from making this connection with students because we are afraid of the consequences. But sometimes it is as much as recognizing that you enjoy something in pop culture as much as your students or shying away from a text book to utilize something in the media whether that be an interesting article or a movie clip and shed new light on the topic though that media.

    I believe that anything you do will affect a students emotional and social aspects of the classroom. Whether you choose to participate in this aspect of leading a classroom or not you are still participating. By being cold and removed from students in an emotional or social manner then you affect your students in one way while if you become too friendly students are not able to separate you as teacher and your as hilarious person who is always joking around. It is a balance and it is different for every student but for me its necessary to at least acknowledge for yourself where you stand in this issue and you have to recognize how that decision affects your classroom atmosphere before you can worry about helping students learn. The point is that adolescents are in a unique part of their life that is very social and emotional lead and by not considering the implications of your actions things could go wrong very quickly.

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  8. Greta,

    To respond to your first question if teachers should build relationships with the students, I think that is the key in order to have a good classroom management. I like to think that once I start building relationships with my students, there will be mutual respect. I want to let my students know even from the beginning of the year my expectations regarding the rules, grades and other things. I believe that if there is mutual respect the students would want to be there. It does take time to build relationships with students and to get to know them as individuals, but in the long run it will pay off. It’s important that we care about our students and just as one teacher from the article by Brown states that “Kids feel that if you really don’t care about them then they’re not going to care about you.” Another teacher from the article mentioned that “it takes a while to build that trust. You have to consistent with kindness and respect for students. I always treat them fairly.” So being consistent regarding the rules and caring about the students are important factors in having a good classroom management.

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  9. Hey Greta,
    I am responding to the first quote and question. I think Collette makes a great point, but this all depends on the teacher. Personally, I believe we should make connections with our students in order to get the most out of them. At this point in time it is definitely their 'job' to be students and excel in their education. Unfortunately they don't always see it this way and may need an incentive or connection in order to do so. That is where we come in and help them. If we show we care the students may want to work harder and trust us. I know that when I'm observing I want to do everything I can to help my students. I feel that they see that and want to try harder as well. This may just be me being biased as well.

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  10. Greta,
    I feel discipline and punishment are needed in the classroom, but not always. Some students can be reached more effectively through just help and guidance, but for some students, the set of discipline is needed. As for suspensions, I feel in school is more effectively, and allows students to keep working on what they are doing.

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  11. Greta,

    Excellent post. I really enjoyed your anecdote and it certainly shed a light on respectful students. Many new teachers believe that they will command respect and authority simply by the position they hold, but for many of our students this is not the case. Respect must be earned and connecting personally with the students is certainly a great way to do so. How would you have connected with your most "disruptive" students though if you did not find any similar interests?

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  12. Hey Greta,
    I absolutely agree that we should build relationships with out students. How else are we supposed to get to know them? Isn't part of differentiating our instruction about catering to all our students needs? How are we supposed to find out what those are if we don't know our students? Especially for us English teachers, it allows us to connect with our students through literature. We can suggest books based on their interests for SSR, or we can select an article for in class reading about something many of our students like. I can honestly say I have no idea how a teacher could expect to have a good classroom environment without getting to know their students.

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  14. I definitely agree that building relationships with our students is very important for many aspects in the classroom, including classroom management. I agree with what you said that teachers don't necessarily have to be strict and have no sense of humor to have good classroom management, but that they can also be caring and understanding and still have good control over their students' behavior. I think that goes along with building relationships with students, because if they feel that they are in an environment where they are respected and cared for, they might respond better.

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  15. I agree that different classes require different classroom management strategies. Some classes may be rowdy, especially after lunch, so you may have to be more "strict". But for all classes, a connection from the teacher to the students is needed. I agree that teachers need to care for and understand their students. We need to present ourselves as someone the student respects or we will be trampled over.

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  16. Building positive and strong relationships with students is always one of the first things I think about in regards to classroom management and creating a comfortable classroom environment that fosters learning and growth for students. Just as Jamie mentioned above, it's hard to imagine a teacher successfully managing a classroom without really getting to know their students interests, needs, and overall personalities. In observing the way that my mentor teacher interacts with her students, I can tell that her students feel comfortable with her and respect her just as she respects them. She has often engaged in short conversations about family experiences and interests such as TV shows with her students in between class periods. I have also seen that she has been able to build relationships with students who are actively involved in school committees and activities with her as these students have positive interactions with her both in and outside of the classroom and appear to be more engaged during class time. It is evident that my mentor teacher has found several different ways to connect with her students, which has helped her develop a mutual understanding with them during class time. This goes to show that there can be multiple opportunities for us as teachers to really get to know our students, and we must recognize and take advantage of those opportunities so that we may have a better idea of what does and doesn't work for our students in the classroom.

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  17. Greta,

    I want to address the first two questions you asked, because I feel strongly about that idea. I absolutely agree with Collete. I think this goes along with the second question you asked too. I think that getting to know your students and establishing the classroom dynamic with them is a powerful way to hold students accountable for their actions. I have experienced as a student and as a teacher that teachers have a much better chance at getting through to their student if there is a mutual sense of respect between the two. It's logical, why would you open up to someone or do what they ask if you don't feel respected or have respect for that person? I think that the teachers who try to connect to their students on a human level always are more successful in managing their classrooms because they generally know who is in their classroom.

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  18. Greta,

    I think classroom management is very important and it is something that needs to be established from the very first day. Based off my observations, my mentor teacher has a great relationship with her students and you can clearly see it simply by seeing how the kids greet her in the hallway. She has built a strong relationship with her students at a personal level, but has maintained that line between a teacher and a student. If students feel comfortable with their teacher, they won't see her as a just the teacher, but as an actual human being whom they can connect with. When she asks them to do something, they listen to her because they know to respect her and that she is not making them do the work because she wants to be mean, but because they are going to benefit from it.

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  19. Hi Greta,

    The point you brought up about forming indivdual relationships is so true. As you mentioned the students in the high school I observed did not see me as an authority figure. I had a few incidents where I was mistaken as a student, a teacher yelled at me for not sitting down during the assembly and a student asked me if I was a student or teacher. I was mostly shocked hearing this because I was not wearing a uniform.I think relationships with students need a certain boundary. I thought I had good relationships with the students. I knew their interests and some of their backgrounds, but all this seemed to be thrown away during my lesson. As soon as I walked into the room to teach the students were talking away. It took me a while and repated attempts to get them to settle down during the lesson. I think the main cause of this was because I was not authoritative and the students viewed be more as a 'friend' than a teacher. I think we need to make students comfortable around us but with certain rules.

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  20. Hi Greta,

    I definitely agree with several of the points made, especially about building positive and strong relationships with our students. My mentor teacher did not have good relationships with her students. She barely knew their names. It was not an environment, in which I felt comfortable at times. However, at the school that I am observing in Pilsen, the teacher and the students have such wonderful relationships that they know when to stop playing and get to work. I even have better relationships with these students, because they model the same behavior as if I was their teacher. Being able to establish an environment like this one takes time and experience, but it is necessary in order to have a productive, academic year.

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  21. Hi--Going to comment on your first post referring to Collette's teaching advice. Upon reading her "you have to get to a student's heart before you can get to their head" statement, I admit I thought, well that sounds super cheesy. However, in really thinking about it I admit I have to agree, whether or not I would use those exact words. I absolutely agree that in order to have a chance at your students learning in your classroom, you have to provide an open atmosphere for them and a personal connection with them. This may not be the case for all students, however I think that the majority of students will require some sort of real relationship with a teacher before they will allow themselves to absorb/learn in their classroom.

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  22. Hi Greta,
    I feel a partial when it comes to creating a relationship with my students. What I think would be more affective would be to project a sense of empathy towards students so that they can create that bond. This can tie into their cultural sense and impact them positively that way. I'm just worried that forming a social-emotion relationship might turn out badly in terms of not being able to meet all the needs that they are expecting you to meet.

    Nice post!
    Saarah Mohammed

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